• wjrii@lemmy.world
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    TL:DR: Poor scale and awareness due to being a niche brand, overly large aluminum body panels requiring either massive replacements or complicated welding, small shops guessing that it must be even more exotic and expensive than the CEO claims, and insurers shrugging and moving on because the volumes aren’t hitting their financials hard enough for them to care.

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      insurers shrugging and moving on because the volumes aren’t hitting their financials hard enough for them to care.

      No insurance company works like that.

      The cost to insurance comes out of premiums. Rivians and Teslas cost a fortune to insure.

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        Fair enough, I may have inferred a bit too much, so here is what the CEO said:

        And so third parties, the reason you saw some of these really high numbers, is we’re like, ‘A Rivian? And what’s a Rivian?’ So they they don’t know the car, and they quote an enormously high number, the insurance company agrees to it, and then that happens.”

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      welding aluminum requires TIG. It’s harder and more specialized.

      welding mild steel body panels are simple with equipment any body shop will have.

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        TIG is neither expensive nor difficult any more. Laser welders are now cheap and trivial to use for aluminum.

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        welding aluminum requires TIG. It’s harder and more specialized.

        You can weld aluminium with MIG just fine. It is indeed way more difficult than normal steel and not every car shop has skills nor equipment for it.

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          ‘can,’ maybe, huge pain in the ass more likely. I’m far from an expert, but I’ve had much more success with AC. That oxide layer rebuilds itself pretty quick…

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            You need a suitable welder for that with pulse feed so that it kinda-sorta acts like square wave AC. With your average hobbyist garage welder it’s going to be a real pain in the ass.

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        Hell any home 120v wire welder can do mild steel. It is the cutting and shaping part that is hard.