This might be relevant to those who wish / have to use Windows 11:

This week, Microsoft made it very clear that it wants to block the popular BYPASSNRO workaround, used to skip the internet and Microsoft Account requirement checks during the Windows 11 installation OOBE (initial setup), although thankfully, the script can still be created using Registry edits.

A 7 step guide.

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    2 months ago

    As a civilization, we need to accept that we can no longer continue to depend on Microsoft Windows to use our computers. Hopefully the transition will go through without Microsoft having the opportunity to try to save themselves.

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      I don’t think we are even close to getting critical mass but there gamers can be converted pretty easily now.

      Each time micro-shit does a thing, Linux gets more users.

      Prolly will take another decade or two but Linux will hit that critical mass.

      Every day more people find out that Linux is part of the freedom tool set.

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    They are never going to totally kill local only accounts… Because corporate networks, automation, embedded systems, air gaped networks… all exist in abundance in the enterprise and government worlds.

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    7 steps? I have it down to 3

    1. don’t by will 11 home
    2. when at the account creation screen select This will be domain joined.
    3. create local account.
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    1 step guide: Linux

    Yes yes I know it’s not, but still easier and faster than setting up a new Windows install, getting drivers and installing updates.

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    Recently needed to set up a Win11 VM. It worked after removing the network adaptor from the VM setup, and then using the bypassnro command.

    Fucking Microsoft.

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    I don’t really get it why people jump through these major hoops just to get Windows working the way they want it to. Just ditch the problem.

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      It takes me 10 seconds to remove internet access from yet another windows process, it takes weeks if not months to re-download the 2 point something TB of games I have installed.

      People who have a real internet connection need another excuse but my internet isnt good for 2005, let alone 2025.

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      Sure that’s ok for your personal machine. Now convince leadership that your 500 machine fleet needs to be switched over to Linux.

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        Well, if a company has 500 machines and all of them having microsoft online accounts raises no security questions, I ain’t working there, simple as that

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    Meta : I’d be curious to know the ratio of people downvoting the “Linux!” suggestion who actually do so from Windows.

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    Honestly, guys, gals and others, Microsoft is making it crystal clear they don’t want you to use their OS. It’s not your OS, it’s theirs. Stop trying mangle it into something it is not. If you need registry edits just to make the OS usable, it’s not worth it. It’s not for you. Please, please, please look at alternatives that respect you, your intelligence, your privacy and your data. One day Microsoft will push an update that will lock you out of your machine unless you create an account. Jumping through these hoops is just delaying the inevitable. Using an OS is not worth all this effort and stress.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “Linux is far too complex for the common person to use.”

    Installing windows without your data being harvested: 7 steps, then editing registry files, uninstalling most of the programs that come with it and get reinstalled with every update, use this command prompt, download this program from a random website you’ve never heard of before…

    Installing Linux without your data being harvested: Click continue.

    Linux is so difficult you guys, no one could possibly learn the command line.

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      Linux is so difficult you guys, no one could possibly learn the command line.

      In the vast VAST majority of “normal” use cases, which I’d argue for most people it’s :

      • Web browsing
      • watching videos or listening to music
      • editing text documents, spreadsheets, presentations
      • playing video games
      • managing files, e.g. moving them in directories, compressing them, etc
      • keeping the system up to date
      • using a printer

      there are reliable ways to use a GUI. So… even though IMHO the command line is absolutely worth learning, one can perfectly use Linux my “just” clicking their way around.

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      Orrrrrr, hear me out, just click once and get an online account because you don’t care.

      And yes, the command line is an issue to most regular users. My parents don’t grasp the concept of keyboard shortcuts for copying and pasting. I get a phone call every time they try to attach a file to an email, where they say the steps when they are doing it so they don’t fuck it up. If you use the computer to access a single webpage that’s bookmarked, youtube and ebay, maybe an hour every week at most, expecting them to have to learn a new system and a command line isn’t feasible. People like icons and clicking. If you managed to get rid of a keyboard and maintain functionality, they’d switch in a heartbeat. That’s why smartphones are so popular. That’s why kids preffer touchscreen over controller, and are basically unable to play keyboard and mouse anymore.

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        If you use the computer to access a single webpage that’s bookmarked, youtube and ebay, maybe an hour every week at most, expecting them to have to learn a new system and a command line isn’t feasible.

        You don’t need to access the command line (nor even the system really) to do browsing. The same browser you use on windows is gonna work on Linux.

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      I’ve swapped back and forth between Linux and Windows a half dozen times now, and I can honestly say, both are a bitch to set up from a clean install.

      Even with guides and autoloading scripts and whatnot, it’s still going to be a few days of pain while you try to figure out what else needs to be installed to use the computer the way you want to use it.

      Or that’s how it works for me.

      I mostly just wish more games were linux native.

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        can you explain why it takes you that long to set up a new linux install? for me a fresh install with a (really not complex) script to install my required software and copying over config files takes maybe one hour (excluding game downloads of course).

        genuinely interested if your setup is that much more complex or where the difference comes from.

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      I use linux for everything except for one critical app that does not yet work on linux outside of a virtual machine. But, my computer is not powerful enough to run it in a virtual machine.

      There are also no alternatives to it either. So, I have a second computer to use windows for just that, but the day it works on linux is the day I say bye to windows forever.

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    fun fact Rufus already has all of this automated and even has steps to have the local account of your choice already as part of the image

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    This is great. Most other comments only talking about how the solution is to “install Linux”. But thats not a viable solution for us Admins setting up PC’s for users in a company who barely understand how to use a Windows machine, never mind them ever even hearing of the word Linux.

    I would love to install Linux on some users machines that dont use the PC for anything other than Internet Access. But I know they would still have a cow.

    Since I saw they were getting rid of Bypassnro ive been panicking, wondering if I’m going to start having to set up a Microsoft account for all my users. I’ll test this on Monday and hopefully breath easy. That is until they decide to strip us of this solution as well.